Jeremy Corbyn Train Debacle Prompts People To Come To Defence Of Labour Leader

His supporters are not taking this lying down. Or sitting on the floor.
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The latest and most bizarre scandal to engulf Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn - about whether there were seats available on the “ram-packed” train he used to illustrate his case for re-nationalising the railways - has triggered a defiant response from his supporters.

Sir Richard Branson was bombarded with angry responses after he tweeted the Virgin Trains press release that said Corbyn made up his claim that his train was full and people were forced to sit on the floor.

Here’s Virgin Trains’ version of events that kicked off #traingate,:

How Traingate unfolded, according to Virgin
Virgin Trains
11.07am: Seven minutes after the train left Kings Cross, Jeremy Corbyn walked by unreserved seats in the train's coach H
Virgin Trains
11.08am: Corbyn walks by apparently reserved seats in Coach F
Virgin Trains
11.43am: Corbyn takes a seat in Coach H, having filmed himself on the floor for his campaign message

But Corbyn’s defenders were predictably undeterred. Here are six things they are saying in defence of the Labour leader.

1. He didn’t get a seat until later in the journey

Many people tweeted pictures showing passengers slumming it with other passengers, also supposedly forced to sit on the floor for want of seats.

8. Here’s some other people who met Corbyn whilst he was sitting on the floor of the train #TrainGate pic.twitter.com/1tSnvXlaYj

— Charles B. Anthony (@CharlesBAnthony) August 23, 2016

The truth of #traingate pic.twitter.com/RFikI4BK25

— Greg Dash (@GregLabour) August 23, 2016

The Guardian’s Peter Walker said he had spoken to a passenger on the train who “100% backs his story”, saying she sat in the corridor with her two children near him.

Just spoken to passenger on Corbyn train who 100% backs his story. Says she was sat in corridor with her 2 kids near him.

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) August 23, 2016

This is also what Corbyn’s campaign said, saying he and his team sat in the train’s corridor until “a family were upgraded to first class” and they were offered seats by “a very helpful member of staff” later in the journey.

But the statement did not address Virgin Trains’ footage that apparently Corbyn had a seat at the start of the journey which he returned to after he did his bit of filming.

And here it is. Fails to address Virgin's claims that he had a seat at the start though pic.twitter.com/gSDCjNUxCi

— Martha Gill (@Martha_Gill) August 23, 2016

2. Trains are overcrowded regardless of whether Corbyn’s was

A political point this one, rather than an observation about what happened on the day.

9. Packed trains are a reality for commuters every day. Spin it anyway you like. But it happened. To Corbyn, and many others #TrainGate

— Charles B. Anthony (@CharlesBAnthony) August 23, 2016

The #traingate stunt has taken away from the real issue for many passengers who have to travel daily on overcrowded trains.

— Anne McGuire (@AnneMcGuire97) August 23, 2016

Jeez shut up about #traingate
Trains are sh*t, don't run on time, are overcrowded and cost a fortune.
End of.

— (((Wendy))) (@MrsD_lovesTea) August 23, 2016

If you are on @VirginTrains send in pictures to illustrates the lack of seats on their services #traingate - give last word to passengers

— yvonne ridley (@yvonneridley) August 23, 2016

Corbyn’s statement said: “Passengers across Britain will have been in similar situations on overcrowded, expensive trains. That is why our policy to bring the trains back into public ownership, as part of a plan to rebuild and transform Britain, is so popular with passengers and rail workers.”

3. The seats that were empty were actually reserved

Virgin Trains put out several images of Corbyn on the train and Branson ill-advisedly tweeted it out with an image that appeared to show Corbyn passing empty seats with tickets on them, suggesting they were reserved for at least part of the journey.

Mr Corbyn & team walked past empty unreserved seats then filmed claim train was ‘ram-packed’ https://t.co/R5hawIpQek pic.twitter.com/22t8EkjW5l

— Richard Branson (@richardbranson) August 23, 2016

...which prompted of deluge of tweets reacting to that photo.

@richardbranson looked reserved pal

— Christopher Wilcock (@Chris_J_Wilcock) August 23, 2016

@mcscoobertdoo. Agree @Chris_J_Wilcock. Carriage full of reserved seats. Watch who tweets on your behalf @richardbranson

— Daveybhoy (@heenster78) August 23, 2016

@Chris_J_Wilcock @richardbranson Agree, look reserved

— Jasmine Pengelly (@StackJaz) August 23, 2016

But it wasn’t clear the pictured seats were reserved...

@Chris_J_Wilcock @richardbranson unreserved carriage pal

— Joshua Dixon (@JoshDixonTweets) August 23, 2016

It was claimed Corbyn had avoided the seats because he could not find four seats at a table or a double seat for him and his wife to use.

Journalists poured over the CCTV stills to see if this was true.

JC says no seats available when he got on. But here is walking past empty seats just 7 mins out of Kings Cross: pic.twitter.com/12FNlE4eom

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) August 23, 2016

Left: Corbyn's #traingate statement
Right: CCTV of Corbyn near unreserved seats, timestamp 11:10

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pic.twitter.com/aIyXxaBD72

— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) August 23, 2016

today has been weird pic.twitter.com/exOIW63wSs

— Tom Phillips (@flashboy) August 23, 2016

Corbyn’s team told the BBC that some of the seats had bags on them and may been taken by people who had gone to the toilet.

4. There are no time stamps on the CCTV images so we can’t know when they were taken

We can give this one pretty short shrift.

5. Virgin Trains breached the Data Protection Act by releasing the footage

The company says it would never release CCTV footage from trains without the consent of the people in the footage.

CCTV is monitored for the safety of our staff and customers, and to discredit you if you advocate political positions that threaten profits

— Huw Lemmey (@huwlemmey) August 23, 2016

Someone tweeted the Information Commissioner’s Office, the watchdog that can investigate the handling of the information, which responded it was “making enquiries”.

.@richardbranson when I travel on Virgin trains do I give permission for cctv to be used for non safety or crime reasons?

— Paul Lewis (@paullewismoney) August 23, 2016

@paullewismoney @sussexblogger @richardbranson I think that @ICOnews should let us know what's allowed.

— Neil Green (@neilrgreen) August 23, 2016

@neilrgreen We are aware of this issue and are making enquiries.

— ICO (@ICOnews) August 23, 2016

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