BBC Newsnight Editor Ian Katz Defends Grenfell Report Disputing Claims Baby Was Thrown From Tower

'How false narratives become accepted as truth.'
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The editor of BBC’s Newsnight has defended a contentious report disputing eyewitness accounts that a baby was thrown from a Grenfell Tower window and caught on the night of the blaze.

Reports of the dramatic rescue were shared by many news outlets, including HuffPost UK, after witnesses on the ground in the immediate aftermath of the fire told how they saw a mother desperately throwing her child from the tower.

But in the weeks and months since the devastating blaze, which killed at least 80 people, reports subsided and no family members or friends came forward to confirm the story.

The editor of Newsnight has defended a report looking into the baby who was allegedly thrown from a Grenfell window.
The editor of Newsnight has defended a report looking into the baby who was allegedly thrown from a Grenfell window.
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Samira Lamrani was one of the witnesses who said she saw a baby being thrown from a ninth floor window.

She told HuffPost UK at the time: “There were screeches and somebody was gesturing that there was a lady at the window and as I looked up a lady was frantically gesturing and screaming, with her hands, from her body language, that she was about to throw the baby and she wrapped her baby in what seemed like a sheet or blanket and threw the young baby out of the window.”

Watch more of the interview below.

Another witness quoted at the time was George Clarke, who said he saw a man catch a child thrown out of the window from the eighth floor.

On Monday night, the BBC’s Newsnight programme aired a segment on why the Grenfell baby rescue probably never happened, interviewing psychologists and other witnesses from the scene.

The programme used physics to dispute the witnesses’ claims that a baby could have been thrown from such a height and survived.

A graph showing the speed which a bowling ball would fall from 30 metres.
A graph showing the speed which a bowling ball would fall from 30 metres.
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Newsnight then filmed footage of a bowling ball being dropped from the top of a tower block and smashing when it hit the ground.

The Metropolitan Police said they had “no record of this incident”.

The programme sparked a backlash on social media, with some calling it “bizarre” and others accused the corporation of trying to “discredit” the testimonies of survivors.

The Newsnight Grenfell baby debunking story is just bizarre. Why are they doing this?

— Hugo Rifkind (@hugorifkind) October 9, 2017

Lots of debate on Twitter about this - most seem to condemn Newsnight debunk of eye-witness reports baby was thrown from Grenfell Tower https://t.co/lvYChgwJC2

— Dominic Ponsford (@Domponsford) October 10, 2017

Some accused Newsnight of trying to cast doubt on survivors’ accounts of the events from that night.

Is #Newsnight trying to discredit testimony of #Grenfell residents? Confusion horror shock all played part! Shame on BBC

— Irene (@irene89383961) October 9, 2017

#Newsnight's Grenfell story was classic gaslighting, cast doubt on one part of a story, throwing doubt on the rest,

— Mark Súileabhán (@sullieship) October 9, 2017

There have been reports of survivors being reluctant to identify themselves as residents of Grenfell, with some suggesting it is because they are being accused of “cashing in” on the tragedy.

One woman told Times columnist Hugo Rifkind on Twitter than such accusations are “rife”, adding that people are “weary (sic) who they tell now” because of the response they receive both online and offline.

It’s online, in person. I know a couple of people who’ve stopped telling people they’re survivors b/c they’ve been accused of lying.

— Celeste Thomas (@mamapie) October 9, 2017

BBC Newsight editor Ian Katz responded to some of the complainants on social media, defending the programme and saying the story of the Grenfell baby was a powerful example of how “false narratives become accepted as truth”.

Because it's a powerful case study in how false narratives become accepted as truth even when lots of people acting in good faith

— Ian Katz (@iankatz1000) October 10, 2017

Obviously not out to upset anyone but odd to suggest that trying to establish whether reported facts are true is pointless

— Ian Katz (@iankatz1000) October 9, 2017

We report regularly on the fate of the survivors David...most recently a 30 minute film on what became of all residents on one floor

— Ian Katz (@iankatz1000) October 9, 2017

It was a forensic look at one of most striking stories from Grenfell disaster which explored how false narratives can gain life of their own

— Ian Katz (@iankatz1000) October 9, 2017

The BBC said it would not give out any complaint figures, and offered no further comment to Katz’s responses on Twitter.

HuffPost UK has reached out to Lamrani for comment on this story.

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