Housing Minister Alok Sharma has been slammed for failing to answer âsimpleâ questions around the Grenfell Tower fire in a heated, car-crash television interview that lasted 15 minutes.
Appearing on Good Morning Britain on Monday, Sharma immediately irked host Piers Morgan by delivering a long-winded reply to his very first question, that in no way answered it.
Sharma was asked how many people had died in the June 14 disaster, which has been a point of contention since the outset.
Police have confirmed 79 bodies have been recovered, but the death toll is believed to be much higher and residents, along with Labour MP David Lammy, have expressed frustrations at the speed in which authorities have released details amid âcover upâ claims.
In an almost one-minute long reply, Sharma said:
âI attended a community engagement meeting last week where I heard directly from those who have been directly affected by this dreadful tragedy and I have to say I was absolutely moved to tears by the individual stories that were relayed to me and I have nothing but admiration for the dignity the people have shown in this adversity.
âAs for us, we want to make sure that something like this never happens again and we will leave no stone unturned in making sure that this is the case. And I have to tell you that whatever we do, everything that I personally do, the voices of those people that I spoke to will be utmost in my mind as we move forward to something like this never happening again. It should never have happened in the first place and it will we will make sure it never happens again.â
A frustrated Morgan attempted to get Sharma back on track by repeating âthe question I actually asked youâ.
This time Sharma was more succinct, echoing the police line that 79 bodies had been recovered but that ânumber may well riseâ.
When pushed on suggestions that the death toll could be âhundredsâ Sharma called for people with knowledge about who was in the building on the night of the blaze to help authorities âbuild a pictureâ of occupancy when the tragedy struck.
The conversation then moved to the cladding which is believed to have helped spread the fire across Grenfell Towerâs 24 floors and has led to a nationwide scandal that has so far seen 60 high-rise towers failing cladding safety checks.
The interview soured further when Sharma was quizzed on whether the cladding used on the tower was legal or not. Initially, he replied: âWell what we are doing, of course Piers, is making sure we check cladding in high rise building across the country...â
An exasperated Morgan repeated the question, telling Sharma âyou keep answering different questionsâ, before adding, âyouâve had two weeks now to work this outâ.
Sharma replied: âFrom what we have seen it would suggest that the material that was used was combustile [combustible] but at the end of the day this is a matter for the investigation.â
When pushed further about whether the cladding was illegal, Sharma told Morgan that was a âmatter for the police inquiryâ but added that the Government had been clear on what types of cladding were not compliant with building regulations.
Morgan argued Sharma could not give a straight answer, to which the Housing Minister replied, âIf I could just say to you at the end of the day neither you nor I are experts when it comes to these mattersâ.
Morgan snapped at Sharma, âYou are the Housing Minister, you should know.... it is literally your job to know.â
Sharma: âI am not an expert on fire safety Piers.â
Those watching the exchange at home, shared Morganâs frustrations and those of other journalists who had interviewed the minister on Monday.
Questions later concerned building regulations, but Sharmaâs replies left Morgan and co-host Susanna Reid, equally frustrated.
During the interview Sharma condemned comments made by Labourâs Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, that the Grenfell Tower deaths amounted to âmurderâ.
Sharma said he was âdisappointedâ by the comments made during Glastonbury Festival, adding that âI donât think thatâs what the public wantsâ.
Labourâs shadow housing secretary John Healey on Monday distanced himself from McDonnellâs remarks, telling BBC Radio 4âČs Today programme: âI wouldnât use the word âmurderâ,â he said. âItâs not yet possible to point to direct cause and effect. We donât know the full details.â