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"Do you think £12,000 is enough money to manage on?" Sally Nugent asked.
The defence secretary became the first minister to admit the Tories are unlikely to win the election.
The Conservatives are targeting the grey vote with their latest policy announcement.
Experts say the extra spending is £55 billion less than the PM claimed.
The BBC Breakfast presenter pulled health secretary Victoria Atkins up on her claims.
Health secretary Victoria Atkins dodged the question 7 times during the excruciating interview.
Sally Nugent asked whether Simon Clarke is "a faithful or a traitor" for wanting Rishi Sunak ousted.
"I’m hoping the judges will be kind – and filled with Christmas spirit."
The education secretary's morning media round didn't exactly go smoothly on Monday.
"They're not really comparable figures, are they?" Sally Nugent noted.